OpenAI CEO Sam Altman not too long ago mentioned that the corporate is doing “properly extra” than $13 billion in annual income — and he sounded just a little testy when pressed on the way it can pay for its large spending commitments.

His feedback got here up throughout a joint interview on the Bg2 podcast between Altman and Microsoft CEO Satya Nadella concerning the partnership between their two firms. Host Brad Gerstner (who’s additionally founder and CEO of Altimeter Capital) introduced up reviews that the corporate is presently bringing in round $13 billion in income — a large quantity, however one which’s dwarfed by greater than $1 trillion in spending commitments for computing infrastructure that OpenAI has made for the subsequent decade.

“To begin with, we’re doing properly extra income than that,” Altman mentioned. “Second of all, Brad, if you wish to promote your shares, I’ll discover you a purchaser. I simply — sufficient. I believe there are lots of people who would love to purchase OpenAI shares.”

“Together with myself,” Gertner interjected.

Altman then added that there are critics who “discuss with numerous breathless concern about our compute stuff or no matter that might be thrilled to purchase our shares.”

In reality, he mentioned that though there are “not many occasions” when he needs OpenAI to be a public firm, “One of many uncommon occasions it’s interesting is when these persons are writing these ridiculous ‘OpenAI is about to exit of enterprise’ [posts], I’d love to inform them they might simply brief the inventory, and I’d like to see them get burned on that.”

Altman acknowledged that there are methods the corporate “may screw it up” — for instance by failing to get entry to sufficient computing sources — however he mentioned that “income is rising steeply.”

“We’re taking a ahead wager that it’s going to proceed to develop, and that not solely will ChatGPT continue to grow, however we will grow to be one of many necessary AI clouds, that our shopper system enterprise might be a major and necessary factor, that AI that may automate science will create big worth,” he added.

Nadella, who laughed via a lot of Altman’s reply, additionally claimed that OpenAI has “crushed” each marketing strategy that it’s given Microsoft as an investor.

Gertner returned to the topic of OpenAI’s revenues and IPO plans later within the interview, when he speculated concerning the firm reaching $100 billion in income in 2028 or 2029.

“How about ‘27?” Altman countered.

On the identical time, he denied reviews that OpenAI plans to go public subsequent 12 months.

“No no no, we don’t have something that particular,” Altman mentioned. “I’m a realist, I assume it’s going to occur sometime, however I don’t know why individuals write these reviews. We don’t have a date in thoughts, we don’t have a board choice to do that or something like that. I simply assume it’s the place issues will ultimately go.”