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Episode 21: Coaching Reps for Effectivity


When organizations are needing to do extra with much less, ongoing coaching of reps is essential to make sure that they’ve the precise information and expertise to effectively obtain success. Analysis from the American Society for Coaching and Improvement discovered that firms with well-developed coaching packages report 24% increased revenue margins and 218% increased income per worker. So, how can organizations be sure that they’re leaving no cash behind in instances of financial uncertainty? Coaching would be the reply.

Shawnna Sumaoang: Hello and welcome to the Win Win Podcast. I’m your host, Shawnna Sumaoang. Be part of us as we dive into altering traits within the office and how you can navigate them efficiently.

Right here to debate this subject is Shawn Pillow, the Director of Gross sales Enablement and Answer Consulting at Granicus. Thanks for becoming a member of, Shawn! I’d love so that you can inform us about your self, your background, and your function.

Shawn Pillow: Completely. Thanks for having me. By coaching, I’m really an engineer and an economist, so it’s somewhat shocking maybe that I’ve ended up in a job in gross sales enablement and answer consulting at Granicus. I’ve been right here for about six years, and previous to becoming a member of Granicus, my specialties have been in operations, go-to-market technique, and product administration. It’s been actually attention-grabbing to translate these issues into the constructing, deploying, and iterating of coaching packages for sellers.

SS: I like that and that’s such a uniquely blended background. I do know that you’re additionally chargeable for, as you stated, onboarding, coaching, and upskilling primarily the world-class gross sales staff that’s at Granicus. Why is it so essential in at the moment’s gross sales panorama, and particularly amid financial uncertainty, to make sure that you’ll be able to try this on your gross sales staff?

SP: I feel it’s actually essential as a degree for attracting unimaginable expertise to have the ability to convey to a vendor throughout the interview course of, how they’ll be supported, what the group that’s devoted to creating them profitable appears to be like like, and the way they’ll be capable of adapt to uncertainties and positively the vicissitudes that we see proper now within the market. Simply as consumers are getting smarter within the gross sales course of, our sellers are getting smarter within the interview course of they usually’re asking about these items. If you wish to ship a premier coaching program, you even have to have the ability to appeal to premier expertise and that begins with having the ability to inform these sellers the way you’ll help them.

SS: Completely. I like that. What are among the distinctive challenges your reps expertise in your trade and the way have you ever seen coaching and training packages assist them overcome these challenges to enhance their effectivity?

SP: We’re somewhat bit completely different in that each one of our clients are within the public sector. That might imply the federal authorities, which is plenty of instances what individuals take into consideration after they consider GovTech, however we additionally work with particular districts and municipal organizations at a extremely small degree. One of many large issues that we now have to show our sellers is what these companies do at a basic degree. What’s their mission, what outcomes are they making an attempt to attain, and people differ actually broadly from one degree of presidency to a degree of presidency, and we simply can’t assume that they arrive in with a baseline understanding of what our clients are attempting to do. To have the ability to empower them to achieve their preliminary function, we now have to have the ability to educate them about that company’s mission and its outcomes. The opposite problem is that when our sellers are in search of development they usually’re seeking to progress alongside their profession path, they could transfer from working with one company at one degree of presidency to one thing that’s utterly completely different. We nearly need to retrain them in regards to the mission of that company.

SS: Very attention-grabbing. What did your coaching course of appear to be previous to Highspot and what led to your resolution to evolve your funding in Highspot to incorporate coaching and training?

SP: Our earlier coaching course of was very one-off within the sense that it wasn’t repeatable, it wasn’t constructed for operational scale and it form of began anew each time we onboarded or employed a brand new vendor. Not solely does that not make good use of the scarce assets that almost all enablement groups sometimes have, however it additionally meant that we delivered inconsistent outcomes. We constructed an onboarding playbook alongside an enablement playbook. As we thought of how we institutionalize these issues, how can we make it possible for we’re optimizing for the scale of our staff and the outcomes that we wish and having the ability to ship these issues in a constant method in order that we are able to really measure, iterate and enhance, we wanted to make an funding in a platform that will allow us to try this. As a result of we now have been so profitable utilizing the content material and steerage platform from Highspot, the choice to contain our funding to leverage coaching and training was fairly simple.

SS: I like that. Now that you just’re utilizing Highspot coaching and training to help your reps, how are you utilizing it to help your reps to drive effectivity?

SP: On the very first day {that a} vendor begins, they get positioned into our onboarding program. That takes near 12 weeks, however one of many issues which have been actually useful is the truth that these sellers who need to hit the bottom operating quicker usually are not simply getting publicity to the weather which might be a part of the onboarding program, they’re getting on board into utilizing Highspot as a software that shall be essential for his or her gross sales success. What we’re seeing is that simply by satisfying the demand that we all know exists for coaching and onboarding throughout these first 12 weeks, our sellers are literally going above and past the content material that we’re serving to them and it’s serving to them be extra profitable extra shortly.

SS: I like that. Are you able to share possibly among the outcomes that you just’re seeing out of your reps and what the impression has been from having a unified platform to enhance gross sales productiveness?

SP: Positive. Our newer sellers are producing considerably extra pipeline than individuals who had beforehand onboarded have generated. Practically triple. We’ve been capable of cut back their ramp time to productiveness by about 20%. As I alluded to earlier than, one of many issues that we’re seeing is that by getting publicity to belongings throughout onboarding that they may really use throughout their gross sales course of it’s extremely useful for them to have the ability to get that publicity, and since they’re going by means of a structured onboarding program, we’ve been capable of actually make extra enhancements alongside the best way in order that as we evolve our messaging, or as we shift to being extra of a platform group versus a product group, it’s been actually useful to have the ability to tweak that to get that messaging into sellers arms sooner throughout the onboarding course of, as a substitute of later. It lets us be way more nimble.

SS: I like that. We had appeared into your reps and people which might be finishing the coaching and training programs and they’re primarily driving and producing 3x extra pipelines than reps who could not have gone by means of the course. Are you able to share recommendations on the way you’re driving the adoption of your programs?

SP: Beforehand, we didn’t actually have a structured onboarding program. As I discussed, over the summer time, we launched that new onboarding program, and utilizing coaching and training was one of many issues that we felt was going to be actually profitable in serving to us to try this. As you alluded to, the individuals who have been popping out of onboarding have been being extra profitable they usually have been being extra profitable straight away.

As well as, as a result of we now have our gross sales managers leaning in to assist consider their sellers throughout the onboarding course of, they’ve a extremely crisp concept when that vendor leaves onboarding about the place they should enhance going ahead. It’s helped them be introspective about the place they could like to enhance, and it’s helped them be somewhat bit extra essential in regards to the different individuals on their staff and the place these individuals may want extra enhancements. Among the adoptions are coming from the truth that the sellers who’ve been by means of this system are among the most vocal individuals in regards to the outcomes that this system delivers for them.

I’d say it’s not nearly adoption, it’s about serving to our frontline gross sales managers be energetic within the onboarding course of in a method that scales. On the finish of the day, they nonetheless have a forecast, they’ve a dedicated pipeline, they’ve all of these issues and so serving to them determine the place they must be engaged throughout the onboarding course of by having a structured program and programs that go together with that, after which them having the ability to see the outcomes that they get when a vendor efficiently completes onboarding results in sellers who’re asking as a result of they didn’t undergo a structured course of to really undergo a few of these programs or to return and take part in a course once more.

SS: I like that as a result of they’re so profitable having gone by means of it. They’re proactively searching for it out. I feel that’s phenomenal work and it speaks to the super worth that you just’re bringing to that group. Now simply shift gears ever so barely, I’d love to know from you, Shawn, what key metrics are you monitoring inside Highspot to measure issues like effectivity and productiveness.

SP: One in all my favourite knowledge factors to take a look at is content material engagement and content material utilization. What are our inner customers and repeatedly? Like what are the kinds of content material? What are the paperwork? What are the coaching classes? What are the shows that they refer again to most regularly in order that we are able to double down on iterating on these gadgets? Then, what are the gadgets that they’re sending out to clients and prospects frequently that get essentially the most engagement? What are the very best factors of leverage that assist them transfer their gross sales ahead? These issues I feel are fairly customary.

One of many knowledge factors that I take a look at actually regularly is definitely the search analytics. What are the issues that our sellers are trying to find that if we surveyed and requested them, hey, what else ought to we go construct for you? They might not self-report, however that reveals up in search knowledge. If we all know what kinds of issues they’ll use regularly if we construct it and we all know what they’re in search of that they might not self-report they want, that basically helps us make it possible for we’ve received good just-in-time enablement to assist them with essentially the most impactful content material for the issues that they’re in search of proper now that we could not have.

SS: How are your reps using salesforce integration inside Highspot, and does that show you how to observe and enhance the effectivity of gross sales actions?

SP: Positively helps us observe and enhance effectivity. We will correlate shared content material with wind charges and common gross sales costs. That’s extraordinarily useful. I feel one of many issues that’s essentially the most useful for our sellers is having the ability to affiliate their pitches with accounts and other people which might be concerned of their gross sales course of in order that then salesforce really does turn into that single supply of reality for them, or if they start working with a brand new buyer or they’ve a buyer that they engaged with two years in the past and haven’t actually had a lot interplay with since, they’ll get a extremely wealthy historical past of areas of curiosity, engagement with particular items of content material after which be focused in the best way that they attain out to them sooner or later for extra communications.

SS: I like that. Final query for you, Shawn. I’d love to listen to how you propose to proceed to drive effectivity by means of coaching, particularly amid the financial uncertainty within the months forward.

SP: I feel figuring out your highest level of leverage is absolutely essential. In plenty of organizations that may imply increasing the scale of a specific supporting staff and in durations of rampant progress, that’s a wonderful answer. Proper now, I don’t suppose that’s the answer that lots of people are in search of. They’re making an attempt to establish a bigger variety of these leverage factors as a substitute of a degree with like a extremely excessive quantity of leverage. As an alternative of dramatically increasing the scale of a supporting operate, I feel one of many key issues that we’re seeking to do is establish a bigger quantity of people that can have a larger impression. For many organizations, which means ensuring your front-line managers are enabled to intervene in these actually small, however essential and significant methods every day.

Whether or not that’s your gross sales managers, whether or not that’s, for me, the supervisor of my answer consulting staff, ensuring that these persons are empowered and have the gadgets that they want every day to assist their particular person contributors, to assist their sellers. Your gross sales managers, your individuals managers, whoever they’re in what you are promoting, are all the time going to be the individuals who could make the largest distinction on a each day, weekly, and month-to-month foundation and make it possible for they’re supported and that they’re empowered and that they’re enabled is, I feel, one of many ways in which we’re going to proceed to drive extra effectivity. We really feel like we’ve received a extremely good deal with on onboarding and enabling our sellers, and so now it’s actually time to give attention to our individuals managers.

SS: I like that, and I feel that that may be a improbable strategy, Shawn. Thanks a lot for becoming a member of us at the moment. I actually recognize the time.

SP: Completely. Thanks for having me,

SS: To our viewers, thanks for listening to this episode of the Win Win podcast. Remember to tune in subsequent time for extra insights on how one can maximize enablement success with Highspot.

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