Grammy Award-winning musician, composer, and producer Wyclef Jean says the music business is damaged, which is why he’s now concerned with a startup, OpenWav, that’s seeking to give the ability again to the artists. By way of the OpenWav app, launched over the summer season, artists can drop new music and exclusives, join immediately with followers, promote merch, host live shows, pop-ups, and listening events, and extra.

Later, the startup plans to supply extra help to artists utilizing AI instruments.

Talking on the Fortune Brainstorm Tech convention this week, Jean, now Chief Inventive Officer at OpenWav, had harsh phrases for the state of the music business, significantly criticizing the enterprise mannequin of streaming providers.

“In the event you’re a brand new artist, the quantity of streams that it’s a must to [accumulate] to get $10,000 is actually a rip-off. So now you’ve got a continuing revolt,” he mentioned.

Jean pointed to Cardi B as a latest instance of the issue, saying that whereas individuals in all probability thought it was humorous that she was on the road promoting CDs and vinyl albums (which she did in a TikTok selling her album), what she was actually doing was displaying how unhealthy issues have develop into for artists.

To place issues in perspective, OpenWav co-founder and CEO Jaeson Ma, who spoke alongside Jean on the occasion, mentioned that, “Proper now on Spotify…for $3,000 it’s a must to hit 1 million streams.” Ma is a media business entrepreneur, investor, and advisor who has backed quite a few startups, together with Musical.ly (which turned TikTok), Triller, Coinbase, Seize, and others, and co-founded a number of media firms and the NFT app OP3N.

Ma defined that the business’s damaged mannequin is why the crew at OpenWav is constructing a direct-to-fan music platform.

“The algorithms will not be rewarding music,” he famous, agreeing with a latest social media submit from singer Lizzo, who complained concerning the lack of a “track of the summer season” this yr.

Ma then defined that what right now’s artists want just isn’t 1,000,000 listeners on Spotify, however moderately 1,000 true followers.

“When you have 1,000 true followers that offer you $10 a month — which is a Starbucks espresso occasions 1,000 — that’s $120,000 a yr as an unbiased music artist. Take into consideration that.” (Technically, it’s $100,000 per yr — he possible misspoke — however his level stands; there’s room to monetize the direct-to-fan expertise.)

“Spotify just isn’t paying you. Instagram, TikTok’s not paying you. However your true followers can pay you. They’ll purchase your tickets. They’ll purchase your unique music — your music dropped first on OpenWav. They’ll purchase your merch. And in case you’re making that sort of cash — simply 10 bucks a month — you possibly can truly construct a sustainable profession,” Ma mentioned.

In fact, OpenWav isn’t alone in eager about turning “tremendous followers” right into a income stream for artists. Spotify itself has been speaking about constructing an excellent fan platform for a while, telling buyers on its earnings calls that it goals to launch a new premium tier that may cater to followers who would get early entry to live performance tickets, extra options, and different perks. The corporate has been negotiating with labels like Common and Warner Music to make that occur.

OpenWav wouldn’t essentially be focusing on main artists, as Spotify is, nevertheless. As a substitute, it might be going after indie artists and others simply beginning out.

The idea isn’t solely new. Spotify tried to enter this house, too, when it supplied a method for indie artists to add their very own music again in 2018. However that effort was quickly shuttered after the corporate confronted strain from its label companions who felt the transfer would minimize into their gross sales.

Ma, in response to a query about what makes OpenWav totally different from different fan platforms, admitted there have been rivals available on the market right now, however argued that none had been doing every little thing that OpenWav is doing in a single place.

“Once you come onto OpenWav, you’re in a position to promote tickets and earn 80% of the revenue — 20% [goes to] the platform enabling you to promote tickets to your reveals,” he mentioned. “Everybody that buys a ticket goes into the occasion chat, like a Discord, and also you’re in a position to actually talk and combine and community with the very individuals which can be shopping for the tickets to your reveals,” Ma continued. “Then you definitely’re truly in a position to drop merch in that very same neighborhood chat with zero upfront prices, no stock, international dropshipping.”

Artists on the platform would additionally personal their viewers, like followers’ electronic mail addresses and cellphone numbers.

The platform permits artists to make use of AI to design their merch, and each Jean and Ma expressed enthusiasm concerning the know-how. Jean famous that AI will help musical artists create greater than earlier than, and Ma identified that even report producer and songwriter Timbaland has been utilizing the AI music service Suno like a sampler to assist him do extra along with his present music.

In OpenWav, they plan to make use of AI to assist artists the best way a supervisor may, by suggesting issues like tour areas or merch concepts, in addition to offering instruments to make album artwork or lyric movies, for instance.

“What we see with AI is that AI goes to be your greatest buddy as an artist,” mentioned Ma, who mentioned some AI options would arrive within the app’s “section two.” Within the meantime, OpenWav is accessible on iOS and Android gadgets for customers.